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'SHE WAS SO PURE'

I would give anything to swap places with my fearless little Elsie, say parents of Southport victim in 1st TV interview

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THE mum of Southport victim Elsie Dot Stancombe said she would give anything to have swapped places with her tragic daughter.

Jenni and David Stancombe, in their first interview, told of their heartbreak and need for accountability after a Government inquiry was launched.

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Jenni and David, parents of Elsie Stancombe, who lost her life in the Southport attack last July
Elsie Dot Stancombe was tragically killedCredit: FAMILY HANDOUT/UNPIXS
David and Jenni following a celebration of Elsie at St John’s ChurchCredit: Getty

On July 29 last year teenage killer Axel Rudakubana burst into a Taylor Swift-themed dance class at The Hart Space armed with a knife.

He murdered Elsie, seven, as well as Alice da Silva Aguiar, nine, and Bebe King, six, and injured several others.

Rudakubana, 19, was jailed for life to serve a minimum of 52 years in prison last month.

Jenni, 35, speaking to Good Morning Britain today, said: "We will never feel true happiness again ever."

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Holding back tears, she added: "If we had been there it wouldn't have happened.

"I might not be here but I'd have never let that happen. 100 percent. I'd swap with Elsie any day."

She went on to say: "We represent Elsie and our actions and how we hold ourselves is a representation of her.

"She was so much more than that school picture... we could never show you how special she was, only she could do that."

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Asked what his overriding emotions are, David, 36, said: "Guilt, anger... it's just something I've got to deal with."

Jenni continued: "We just dropped her off to dance and make bracelets. That's all we did.

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"It was something nice for her to do for a couple of hours in the first week of school holidays...

"Lots have said we should never of sent her but she wanted to go so much and I think [it's something] we've spoke about a lot. She was in the right place and where she wanted to be."

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David said his daughter and all the children "had every right to be there, and every right to feel safe".

Jenni said "nothing will bring her back" and David said: "You just torment yourself."

Asked about what they want to come out of the inquiry into the failings that led to Rudakubana slipping through the cracks despite being flagged up as a danger, Jenni said: "An element of accountability."

She continued: "So someone has made a decision that has resulted in an element of failure, then there needs to be accountability for that.

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"And I believe that the announcement of the inquiry will do that and it will hold people to account for some of the decisions that they've made."

Timeline of events related to the Southport stabbings

AXEL Rudakubana has pleaded guilty to the murders of Bebe King, Elsie Dot Stancombe and Alice Dasilva Aguiar, and 10 counts of attempted murder.

Here is a timeline of events relating to the case:

2002: Rudakubana's father Alphonse moves to the UK from Rwanda, according to an interview he gave to his local newspaper in Southport in 2015.

August 7, 2006: Rudakubana is born in Cardiff, Wales.

2013: The family - including Rudakubana's father, mother and older brother - move from Wales to Banks in Lancashire, a few miles from Southport.

July 29, 2024: Shortly before midday, a knifeman enters a dance class at The Hart Space in Hart Street in Southport.

Bebe, Elsie and Alice are fatally wounded. Eight other children are injured, as are instructor Leanne Lucas and businessman John Hayes.

Police say they have detained a male and seized a knife.

Within hours, claims spread online that the suspect is an asylum seeker who arrived in the UK by boat in 2023.

Some claims include an alleged identity.

July 30, 2024: In the evening, a peaceful vigil is held outside Southport's Atkinson arts venue, where flowers are laid in memory of those who died.

Shortly after the vigil, a separate protest begins outside the town's mosque in St Luke's Road.

People throw items towards the mosque, property is damaged and police vehicles are set on fire.

July 31, 2024: Demonstrators gather in Whitehall, London, for an "Enough Is Enough" protest.

Flares and cans are thrown at police and more than 100 people are arrested.

Disorder also breaks out in Hartlepool, County Durham, and Aldershot, Hampshire.

August 1, 2024: Police announce that Rudakubana has been charged with the murders of Bebe, Elsie Dot and Alice, 10 counts of attempted murder and possession of a bladed article.

He is not named by police because of his age.

He appears in court in Liverpool and Honorary Recorder of Liverpool Andrew Menary KC rules he can be named, as he is due to turn 18 in a week.

He initially smiled on entering the courtroom - then kept his face covered by his sweatshirt for the remainder of the proceedings before the case was adjourned.

Later that evening, demonstrators gather outside a hotel in Newton Heath, Manchester.

August 2, 2024: Three police officers are taken to hospital after disorder in Sunderland.

August 3, 2024: There are scenes of violence during planned protests across the UK, including in Liverpool, Hull, Nottingham and Belfast.

August 4, 2024: Disorder continues, including outside a Holiday Inn Express in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, where masked demonstrators launch lengths of wood and sprayed fire extinguishers at police officers.

August 5, 2024: The Government holds an emergency Cobra meeting in the wake of the disorder and Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer vows to "ramp up criminal justice".

That evening, a peaceful vigil is held in Southport, a week on from the killings. Police deal with disorder in Plymouth, Devon and Darlington, County Durham.

August 7, 2024: Prison sentences for those involved in the unrest begin to be handed out. Derek Drummond, 58, is the first person to be jailed for violent disorder at Liverpool Crown Court, where he is sentenced to three years.

More than 100 protests are planned for across the country, with counter-demonstrations taking place, but the majority of police forces report very little trouble.

October 29, 2024: Merseyside Police announces Rudakubana will appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court via videolink the next day charged with production of a biological toxin, Ricin, and possession of information likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing to commit an act of terrorism.

October 30, 2024: Rudakubana appears at Westminster Magistrates' Court via videolink from HMP Belmarsh to face the two new charges.

He holds his sweater over the bottom half of his face and does not respond when asked to confirm his name.

November 13, 2024: Rudakubana appears at Liverpool Crown Court via videolink. He covers his face with his grey sweatshirt and does not speak throughout the hearing.

About 20 family members of victims sit in the public gallery. The case is adjourned until December 12, when a preparatory hearing will take place.

January 20, 2025: Rudakubana appears at Liverpool Crown Court for the first day of his trial where he pleads guilty to all 16 charges, including the murders of Alice da Silva Aguiar, nine, Bebe King, six, and Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven.

It comes after a damning Government report confirmed earlier this month that counter-extremism police three times closed investigations on twisted Rudakubana prior to the Southport murders.

A separate review of the entire scheme is being conducted to see how it can stop more atrocities.

As well as murdering Elsie, Bebe and Alice, Rudakubana also attempted to murder eight other children, as well as class instructor Leanne Lucas and businessman John Hayes.

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Among other atrocities, the report said he was fascinated by the Ariana Grande concert bombing in 2016 which killed 22 people, including children.

He is also said to have asked during a 2019 art lesson why he was able to draw images of guns but not search them on the internet.

He then asked "can we have a picture of a severed head then".

Security Minister Dan Jarvis said last week that the killer was reported to Prevent three times but not referred for further monitoring.

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David told GMB today: "At the time, I didn't know what Prevent was, but since now I know he's had encounters with them.

"It goes without saying, he's obviously come into contact with these services... it doesn't bring Elsie back, does it."

Jenni added: "We hope that change does come off the back of it.

"I would hate for anyone to go through this."

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And David said: "No one else should ever go through something like this. If it was that obvious he'd been flagged up some many times.

"They need to find an answer to it, to iron out the flaws that are already in these services we look into all these people that get flagged up."

Jenni said the family had met singer Swift and her family weeks after the attack at her Wembley show and shown her pictures of Elsie, which she asked to keep.

She said: "If Elsie knew that Taylor knew her, it would be like all her dreams had come true."

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The couple, who said they "won't let evil win this", have set up the charity Elsie's Story in their daughter's memory.

Jenni said: "So many times where we have said we'll never feel true happiness again, ever.

"We might just feel a little bit of something when we make another child smile, for Elsie."

'SHE IS GOING TO MOVE MOUNTAINS'

Bebe's mother, who was not identified for legal reasons, told the programme she hoped her daughter would still have an impression on the world.

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She said: "She can help just the future, protecting children, and I believe she is going to move mountains regardless."

She told the programme: "Our girls just need to be safe, our children need to be safer and protected."

She added: "As parents, it is just really important for us to be able to remove Bebe from the past couple of weeks.

"She was a human being. She was a beautiful, funny, crazy, gorgeous girl and her legacy, it can't be defined by what's happened.

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"I feel like a lioness and I have got to protect my child and I have got to make sure that people know that she isn't defined by this."

She was in tears as she spoke of the family's final moments with Bebe in Alder Hey Children's Hospital.

"She was in her pyjamas, we read to her and the family visited her," she said.

"The final day we lay next to her and we did our final goodbye."

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Bebe's father said the decision to televise the judge's sentencing remarks had "really hurt".

The family's solicitor Sara Stanger said they wanted online safety to be "paramount" in the inquiry.

She said: "They were all really shocked to hear that the videos that the offender accessed were all available on the open internet."

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The family along with younger sister Rosie, aged threeCredit: PA
Axel Rudakubana was sentenced to life with a minimum term of 52 yearsCredit: POLICE HANDOUT/UNPIXS
Alice da Silva AguiarCredit: FAMILY HANDOUT/UNPIXS
Bebe King was the youngest of the three victimsCredit: FAMILY HANDOUT/UNPIXS
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